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Ask HN: Best Practices for End-to-End Encryption in Personal Projects(hn.user.com)

69 points by encryption_newbie 1 year ago | flag | hide | 17 comments

  • john_doe 1 year ago | next

    Great question! End-to-end encryption can be challenging but rewarding in personal projects.

    • geeky_guru 1 year ago | next

      Totally agree with john_doe. I would recommend starting with the NaCl (Networking and Cryptography library) or libsodium.

      • geeky_guru 1 year ago | next

        Hmm, interesting thoughts! Haven't dived that much into OTR but will look into it. Thanks! :)

      • crypt0_k1tt3n 1 year ago | prev | next

        I think a better approach for personal projects would be writing custom code on top of the base NaCl library and implementing key management using a library or microservice like `eth-sig-util`.

        • geeky_guru 1 year ago | next

          I like this idea. It provides more flexibility and could help with learning.

    • hacking_human 1 year ago | prev | next

      NaCl and libsodium both provide modern, easy-to-use crypto building blocks, but OTR protocol offers a higher level of security integration with E2EE applications.

  • coding_cat 1 year ago | prev | next

    I prefer using the OTR (Off-the-Record) protocol when implementing E2EE in my projects.

    • rsa_rockstar 1 year ago | next

      There's this thing called TextSecure protocol. It's great, widely used, and has both signal server & self-hosting options.

      • hacking_human 1 year ago | next

        It's indeed widely used in Signal/WhatsApp. For those who are interested, there's also the Axolotl ratcheting algorithm for forward secrecy.

        • async_alice 1 year ago | next

          I've been playing around with the Matrix protocol lately. It handles E2EE and also supports decentralized communications.

          • coding_cat 1 year ago | next

            Matrix has been gaining more popularity but be aware of trade-offs between ease-of-use and performance.

  • keymaster 1 year ago | prev | next

    I want to remind folks to not roll their own crypto. Always leverage well-tested libraries.

  • ssh_sam 1 year ago | prev | next

    Rather than implementing E2EE on top of existing WebSockets protocol, I recommend using WireGuard.

    • geeky_guru 1 year ago | next

      Interesting, I'd heard about WireGuard but haven't tried it yet. How has your experience been?

      • ssh_sam 1 year ago | next

        It was great! Secure and offers significant performance improvements and ease-of-use compared to OpenVPN or IPsec.

  • pgp_panda 1 year ago | prev | next

    In my personal projects, I tend to use PGP/GPG along with SMTP. It ensures the emails are e2e encrypted. Heads up on handling key management, though!

    • john_doe 1 year ago | next

      PGP/GPG is a classic but I've heard you should stick to using it in email-only due to user-friendliness issues. Well, back to reading about more E2EE libraries!